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Paul Berthelot
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Peterborough, ON
Joined: 07.14.2015

Jul 23 @ 11:06 AM ET
Paul Berthelot: Panarin sets deadline; Leafs and Sharks potential interest Artemi Panarin sets September 13th deadline
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 23 @ 11:27 AM ET
What could the Leafs possible give up for what would amount to a 1 year rental for them that Columbus would accept

Looks like Jarmo has already alienated another player
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Jul 23 @ 11:36 AM ET
Surprised Toronto is in on this , they need help on the backend.
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 23 @ 11:52 AM ET
Surprised Toronto is in on this , they need help on the backend.


There don't seem to be many options for them on D. If they could get Panarin for a reasonable price then why not? Doubt it happens, but it would be pretty great
Buggy166
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 08.01.2007

Jul 23 @ 11:55 AM ET
there's no deals to be made for the back end, and Leafs have almost 20 mil in available cap space just for this next year, with use of LTIR for Horton, and only Nylander left to sign to a 1 or 2 year bridge deal.

Basically, its a very tiny window of opportunity with a wad of cash on hand.

Leafs needs on the back end arent for bottom 4 defensemen, and nobody will trade a top 2 guy, so, its pointless to wait for that to happen out of nowhere.

classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jul 23 @ 12:04 PM ET


Yeah the leafs don't have the assets to make this happen.

unless they plan on trading a young gun.
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 23 @ 12:07 PM ET
Yeah the leafs don't have the assets to make this happen.

unless they plan on trading a young gun.

- classic321


Considering they can't extend him, this stands to reason. Lots of teams that could give up a lot more on the condition that he signs an extension.
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

Jul 23 @ 12:09 PM ET
Yeah the leafs don't have the assets to make this happen.

unless they plan on trading a young gun.


Which also doesn't make sense, because if you're going full offensive overload, you need to keep those guys on your roster.

One thing Toronto has is most of their picks. This route also doesn't make sense for the Jackets unless they suddenly decide to tear it down.
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Jul 23 @ 1:05 PM ET
Yeah the leafs don't have the assets to make this happen.

unless they plan on trading a young gun.

- classic321



Only scenario I see playing out is if Panarin accepts a sign and trade, knowing Jarmo, he would ride out the rest of his contract and then sign someone else in 2019 with the available cap space.
justmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Jul 23 @ 1:14 PM ET
Surprised Toronto is in on this , they need help on the backend.
- Alexzanki


We are clearly going with the theory that if you score a dozen goals a game defence becomes less important.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Jul 23 @ 1:44 PM ET
Sounds like good news for Columbus. Saying I won't negotiate after camp starts is a pretty big step up from I won't negotiate at all.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 23 @ 2:42 PM ET
I'm starting to think some players don't like living in Ohio.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 23 @ 3:07 PM ET
The plan is to bring back '80's hockey.. We're looking to win games by scoring 8-10 goals per game.. Who needs defense? I mean if you plan on winning 12-9, is getting a top pairing d-man that important?
sabreadvocate1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ON
Joined: 12.12.2006

Jul 23 @ 3:46 PM ET
The plan is to bring back '80's hockey.. We're looking to win games by scoring 8-10 goals per game.. Who needs defense? I mean if you plan on winning 12-9, is getting a top pairing d-man that important?
- PatC80


As much as I hate Toronto, that really would be fun to watch. Go for it Leafs.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 23 @ 3:51 PM ET
The plan is to bring back '80's hockey.. We're looking to win games by scoring 8-10 goals per game.. Who needs defense? I mean if you plan on winning 12-9, is getting a top pairing d-man that important?
- PatC80

Only if that top pairing defenseman is actually a winger.


*looks over at Ottawa*
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 23 @ 3:55 PM ET
Which also doesn't make sense, because if you're going full offensive overload, you need to keep those guys on your roster.

One thing Toronto has is most of their picks. This route also doesn't make sense for the Jackets unless they suddenly decide to tear it down.

- leafsfann

Well, picks and a young roster player like Johnsson, Kapanen, or Brown. Given that they're focusing so heavily on rebuilding their d prospect pool, which will start to pay off after the cap-crunch year, I doubt guys like Dermott, Liljergen, or Sandin are available.

I don't think the forward prospects they have are of much interest to Columbus.
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Jul 23 @ 3:55 PM ET
The plan is to bring back '80's hockey.. We're looking to win games by scoring 8-10 goals per game.. Who needs defense? I mean if you plan on winning 12-9, is getting a top pairing d-man that important?
- PatC80

Philly did get to the stanley cup finals on that mentality , and they had freaken Micheal Leighton in nets
Shakers
Columbus Blue Jackets
Joined: 03.22.2017

Jul 23 @ 4:21 PM ET
Unless Jarmo can work something out with the Panthers on a sign and trade I think we're up the creek without a paddle. Panthers have a lot of interesting possibilities.
vertigo1061
Columbus Blue Jackets
Joined: 07.20.2008

Jul 23 @ 5:08 PM ET
Don't trade him now unless the offer is great. Panarin at $6million is a bargain and we get wayyyyyyy more value out of him playing than trading for something right now imho. At the deadline we can see where our season has been heading and make a better decision.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 23 @ 5:54 PM ET
Philly did get to the stanley cup finals on that mentality , and they had freaken Micheal Leighton in nets
- Alexzanki


Oh stop...comparing Philly to Toronto, your making me blush.

xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jul 24 @ 3:11 PM ET
Philly did get to the stanley cup finals on that mentality , and they had freaken Micheal Leighton in nets -Alexzanki


Flyers also had Chris Pronger playing 30 mins a game.
jkumpire
Location:
Joined: 03.16.2009

Jul 25 @ 7:52 AM ET
Maybe the CBJ needs to find him a new girlfriend, or make a private jet available so he can go to whatever big city he wants after practice or on days off.

It's maddening that a city that supports him 100% and a team that he scored more points for last season than any time in Chicago and is willing to pay him among the top ten players in the league (even though his numbers are not top 10 in the league yet) isn't good enough for him. What does he really want?

vertigo1061
Columbus Blue Jackets
Joined: 07.20.2008

Jul 25 @ 10:58 AM ET
Maybe the CBJ needs to find him a new girlfriend, or make a private jet available so he can go to whatever big city he wants after practice or on days off.

It's maddening that a city that supports him 100% and a team that he scored more points for last season than any time in Chicago and is willing to pay him among the top ten players in the league (even though his numbers are not top 10 in the league yet) isn't good enough for him. What does he really want?


- jkumpire


My guess? To go back to Chicago lol. That's where I think he ends up next season.
birdie03
Columbus Blue Jackets
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 25 @ 12:34 PM ET
This whole thing about not wanting to be in Columbus doesn't jive with what he said after being traded from Chicago. Panarin said that he liked the idea of coming to C-bus where it could be "his" team, he being the main man.

In none of his preferred destinations would he be "the man" ! He'd obviously be a huge piece of the puzzle.

In Columbus Panarin is "the man".

I still can't figure out if he would stay in CMH for the right $$ - or he definitely wants out !
vertigo1061
Columbus Blue Jackets
Joined: 07.20.2008

Jul 25 @ 3:35 PM ET
This whole thing about not wanting to be in Columbus doesn't jive with what he said after being traded from Chicago. Panarin said that he liked the idea of coming to C-bus where it could be "his" team, he being the main man.

In none of his preferred destinations would he be "the man" ! He'd obviously be a huge piece of the puzzle.

In Columbus Panarin is "the man".

I still can't figure out if he would stay in CMH for the right $$ - or he definitely wants out !

- birdie03


I can't say I've seen anything that makes me think he'll stay. Liking a place and wanting to stay there for 8 years are different. Hell, I live in Columbus and I don't know if I'd sign a contract to stay here for 8 years. Of course, millions of dollars on the table would help that, but he's going to get paid wherever he goes.
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